Game Theory: Did Dream FAKE His Speedrun? A Final Analysis.

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There has been a controversy brewing on the Minecraft side of AM-posts centered around well known Minecraft creator Dream. He's been accused of faking his speedrun and it has caused a lot of stir. I'm not here to point fingers or accuse anyone. What I'm doing today, Theorists, is going over the facts of this situation and why it is a lot more complicated than people are making it out to be.
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susan alvarenga
susan alvarenga 48 րոպե առաջ
8:32 my aswer is (a)
Marco Rivera
Marco Rivera 2 ժամ առաջ
idk that questiopn
KOJONES123 4
KOJONES123 4 4 ժամ առաջ
Why tf do people even care he’s not even first he’s sixth , people only care because it’s dream
Ian Owens
Ian Owens 4 ժամ առաջ
im gonna tell my math teacher to find out if he was cheating
Ian Owens
Ian Owens 5 ժամ առաջ
"when they bust out latex, you know its serious" thats what she said im sorry i had to
SilencedLamb_ _
SilencedLamb_ _ 5 ժամ առաջ
I want to matt to be my mentor like om not joking
Black and yellow
Black and yellow 7 ժամ առաջ
10 and getting heads 7 times
DIO Brando
DIO Brando 9 ժամ առաջ
Dream Speedrunner *exists* The Game Theorists: Dream the Game *Exists*
Ruben Quack
Ruben Quack 10 ժամ առաջ
Here's an actual answer to this question by Matt Parker from StandUp Maths: am-posts.info/list/m67UmITKsqyTjYY/video Bonus: it doesn't have the ridiculous bragging about understanding a bunch of math that he clearly doesn't understand at all.
Chimbi Choombi
Chimbi Choombi 11 ժամ առաջ
How can some people in this comment section be so ignorant as still think that dream definitively cheated. Matpat’s argument is that the chance of Dream’s drop rates is subjective, which is clearly evident by the different methodologies of the “Particle Physicist” and the mod team. The definitive answer to whether he cheated or not is obtainable only in a perfect world. The best solution would be to support the number of factors (why is it 10 vs 37?), and then to select data from every single recorded instance of Dream’s speed running attempts. Both sides did none of this, and both were biased, and used “true” but misleading statistics. Statistics may be right on a graph, but when applied to a topic, are misleading. For example, “4/5 dentists recommend Colgate”. It may be true, but perhaps those same 5 dentists all recommended Sensodyne. The original statement isn’t false, but it is misleading you to buy the less recommended brand, when obviously Sensodyne was recommended more. Conclusion: Statistics are often biased and used to lie to people, and Pat’s video is saying the ways you can come to a conclusion (and also how both sides did) is not truly representing the entire picture.
animesh rawat
animesh rawat 11 ժամ առաջ
matpat is like you when you're asked "would you save your mom or dad?"
Gaetan Siffert
Gaetan Siffert 14 ժամ առաջ
2:11 oh god no not latex
Alexander Wiseman
Alexander Wiseman 14 ժամ առաջ
This was decidedly a YES to anyone who really understood the data, but a "...maybe no??" to Dream stans. I understand, PatPat, but if you ain't finna answer the question yourself, you shouldn't finna ask the question in your title. Title it something like "An in depth analysis on the Dream situation" or something.
Viktor Milojevic
Viktor Milojevic 18 ժամ առաջ
If he is better than you in minecraft it doesn't mean you should make fake videos about him
Arianna Oros
Arianna Oros 21 ժամ առաջ
Little did future Matpat know was that the argument continued more on the down low
Mel Marmoria
Mel Marmoria 23 ժամ առաջ
this video is so infuriating to watch for so many reasons - too many unnecessary tangents - no real conclusion/answer to the actual title question, hence just pure clickbait - flexing that you share some business with LE DREAM, i guess he is somebody to gloat about - this was basically the longest loudest loading screen for an (skillshare) ad - claiming this video is supposed to be educating about the maths, in the end only explaining the theory of it in a very weird and hard to understand way - the finishing verdict. "minecraft 1.16+ shouldnt be getting speedruns anymore cause too high dependence on luck :c"
SleekJupiter
SleekJupiter Օր առաջ
This is last year's drama mat
noname
noname Օր առաջ
60 is harder than 7 :)
Honshu :]
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I think we all forget what kind of channel Matpat has, he is a Theorist. Yes, he is a good theorist but everybody isn’t always right. Maybe he did cheat, maybe he did not. Your all in the comments talking about how he dodged the question but really he’s literally just doing what he normally does. Yet you don’t say this when he makes different themes such as FNAF and other DDLC? Yet nobody from these games have stood up to things such as this? Why say all of this now because it’s a AM-postsr and not a game of which you can’t say to somebody’s face? Yes, it is basically click bait but what isn’t? My god people it’s 2021, click bait is everywhere right under your noses! Not even just on youtube and even I think you know that. Go ahead, comment down how wrong I am but you can’t deny that this is suspicious and seems acted. Yeah, he might be right but he isn’t a mind reader, the only person who knows whether they cheated or not is Dream. I wonder why it’s always the AM-postsr’s fault and not the game/game developers? 1.16 just came out when this event took place so their is bound to be bugs. But that still doesn’t mean Dream is off the hook and neither is MatPat. But remember, at the end of the day it’s just a theory everybody. :) (Please debate about this in the comments, I wanna see all of opinions on this :D)
Oda Siam
Oda Siam Օր առաջ
This channel helped me learn more than my class lol
Zack Pumpkinhead
Zack Pumpkinhead Օր առաջ
8:36 THEY"RE BOTH THE SAME! HA! Sorry so many comments. I'll do less next time
Zack Pumpkinhead
Zack Pumpkinhead Օր առաջ
1:46 Warzone... huh? Have you heard of... 2b2t?
Matthew Hogan
Matthew Hogan Օր առաջ
No
Livie Noelle
Livie Noelle Օր առաջ
conclusion: the speedrunning team is jealous
Hayden Y
Hayden Y Օր առաջ
Lol
kat h
kat h Օր առաջ
Pls he would be such a cool and good teacher
Hayden Y
Hayden Y Օր առաջ
Yea
Glad Bros Entertainment
Glad Bros Entertainment Օր առաջ
7 times
Dr. Rocker
Dr. Rocker Օր առաջ
Matpat is such a wuss the only reason he won’t say he is cheating is because he is scared to lose his kid subscribers but don’t you see Matpat your subscribers have now grown up dot. Be afraid to say he cheated
Rainbow Pummmkins
Rainbow Pummmkins Օր առաջ
Mat pls tell me pls!
James7
James7 Օր առաջ
I can smell the dream stan dislike this video.
RaisinTree
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hope you all have a nice week, wanted to let you know that Jesus loves you and died for you. you might think of this as annoying and you’ve seen it a lot, but it’s more than that. those who share this are happy with Christ and believe in eternal life and happiness. they want you to be a part of that too, and so do i. you can have your own opinion and i respect it and you can ignore this and that’s fine. stay safe. i believe in you. in whatever you want to do. God has not left you, and never will. again, Jesus Christ loves you so much. He is willing to heal you and anyone else no matter what they’ve done. He has died for us and proved that He is the Christ, Savior, and Protector. God heals us, even though we are wicked. think about that. may we not be ashamed to share His word, for He was not ashamed of us.
Brandon Morehouse
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I would like to say the youtube comments are not the beat place for this kind of a statement
Dragon Fire
Dragon Fire Օր առաջ
Ppl are knocking matpat for not really answering, but he did give a more complex view of both arguments, and I don’t think that’s nothing.
a channel
a channel Օր առաջ
my view I don't think he cheated he clearly got a higher drop rate then normal but odds are just odds. The drop rate for endermen dropping ender pearls is around 50% of course that doesn't mean you're going to consistently drop 5 ender pearls for every 10 endermen its possible to kill 1000 endermen and them drop no enderpearl just its very very unlikely I dont know the probability percentage i imagine its extremely low but still not impossible.
bestofyosuke
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When he started talking about the luck of the item drops, I just thought "so no one here has played a gacha game then" because the luck I've seen some people have by accident is ridiculous, versus some people who whale on them and don't get nearly as lucky (hence the whaling)
JamFoxxy
JamFoxxy Օր առաջ
Mans pulled a Ranboo and didn't choose sides
FreesmartBros2007
FreesmartBros2007 Օր առաջ
2:21 relatable ;-;
AncientAmber YT
AncientAmber YT Օր առաջ
Ah yes, clickbait
Brandon Morehouse
Brandon Morehouse Օր առաջ
Well yes but actually no
K'Sean Richardson
K'Sean Richardson Օր առաջ
I thought condoms when u said latex, but i noticed the quadratic formula short after 😂. What am i?
DONT wamt
DONT wamt Օր առաջ
So everyone's hating matpat here because he doesnt know something? Makes sense
Out by the Water in Cape May
Out by the Water in Cape May Օր առաջ
So... He did? Because any Dream stans that disagree better bend over.
•peachs bunzs ôwø•
•peachs bunzs ôwø• Օր առաջ
help me with me math pls
ENO
ENO Օր առաջ
İmagine dream commenting
Ariel Flores
Ariel Flores 2 օր առաջ
I think 100 times
Zain Huda
Zain Huda 2 օր առաջ
The real problem is that profesional mathmeticians and scientists can spend hours of time just to debunk a minecraft speedrun... Do they really not have anything better to do with their life??
Dream the animator
Dream the animator 2 օր առաջ
:0
chrichu
chrichu 2 օր առաջ
Some people took this video the wrong way bc there are quite a lot of dislikes
DYLAN SALINAS
DYLAN SALINAS 2 օր առաջ
Its funny bc they're talking about high luck but there was a game my dad played and literally got a 0.01% chance weapon 5 time in a row (DFFOO)
Jamie Brophy
Jamie Brophy 2 օր առաջ
Awsome
raystrashcan
raystrashcan 2 օր առաջ
Sir, I seem to be missing an answer in this video
Juliet Torres
Juliet Torres 2 օր առաջ
Coin ten times
lars thememelord
lars thememelord 2 օր առաջ
for anyone who’s angry about lack of an answer it says FINAL ANALYISIS NOT FINAL ANSWER
Vanja Nenadović
Vanja Nenadović 2 օր առաջ
Yeah, you can say that it's 69.2 percent, but if people didn't watch other people's videos, that is 8.8 x 10 to the power of MINUS 12. That is(near) one in a 8800000000000 chance of getting JUST the blaze rods. Including ender pearls, which are (again near) one in 5600000000000 chance, then yeah. And both of them together, are (near) 1 in 2000000000000000000000 chance of getting them.
Galand Commandment Of Truth
Galand Commandment Of Truth 2 օր առաջ
7/10
עדי קרימר
עדי קרימר 2 օր առաջ
I don’t trust Dream He’s cheating I hate him!
Brandon Morehouse
Brandon Morehouse 6 ժամ առաջ
@עדי קרימר So you’re saying he destroyed the perfect world of minecraft? Kind of like how humans destroyed the perfect world of earth? Including you and me?
עדי קרימר
עדי קרימר 6 ժամ առաջ
@Brandon Morehouse why? You say so? Cuz i hate him? Minecraft is relaxing game and now! destroyed in the world! Look what dream he done to Minecraft!. he cheater!
Brandon Morehouse
Brandon Morehouse 9 ժամ առաջ
@עדי קרימר And?
עדי קרימר
עדי קרימר 9 ժամ առաջ
@Brandon Morehouse i must!!! Hate him!. his speedrun is all FAKE!
Brandon Morehouse
Brandon Morehouse Օր առաջ
I don’t think you should hate him.
MegaMathew75
MegaMathew75 2 օր առաջ
69%
ailey
ailey 2 օր առաջ
I wish matpat was my math teacher
Djd250
Djd250 2 օր առաջ
is p hacking hacking wile ur peeing?
W Aliff Naufal W M Syuhaidi
W Aliff Naufal W M Syuhaidi 2 օր առաջ
Ohh well did you know in one of dreams speedrun when he placed the boats in mid air actually there were barriers and there were barriers in the other speedrun when he placed boats in the lava there were barriers because how can he place things in mid air I tried it to and do all his hacks and a failure so he’s fake speedrunning
Brandon Morehouse
Brandon Morehouse Օր առաջ
That makes no sense, and i agree with your final statement. Your explanation just doesn’t work
OLLIE JOSHUA ALFORO
OLLIE JOSHUA ALFORO 2 օր առաջ
did dream fake it? heres the time 23:29
Anicka Amaefule
Anicka Amaefule 2 օր առաջ
Wait, did dream cheat or not?
Anicka Amaefule
Anicka Amaefule 2 օր առաջ
I guess the 100 thingy option because if you take away the one zero each from sixty and hundred you can see that that's right. Yes I'm THIS bad at explaining I watched the video and I think I were wrong. I didn't really understand sooo. Have a great life
Levi Crosby
Levi Crosby 2 օր առաջ
I have no idea what Matpat says every video I watch but that has yet to stop me from watching them
Benny Windipo
Benny Windipo 2 օր առաջ
Matpat has really gone downhill.....
Meba
Meba 2 օր առաջ
Man this is hella annoying. Just say he's wrong or shill for him goddamit
The lord
The lord 3 օր առաջ
Anybody else noticed mr.beast😂
Eldudio 14
Eldudio 14 3 օր առաջ
You can tell mat came to the conclusion he cheated but didn’t wanna say it cuz of the stans
• Møno •
• Møno • 3 օր առաջ
The answer is... Nothing hahahaha
Sarcasm
Sarcasm 3 օր առաջ
This is over a bunch of Minecraft pixels, a video game...
Bottom Text
Bottom Text 2 օր առաջ
Yes because things that happen on the internet have no effect on the real world
Matt Sweeney
Matt Sweeney 3 օր առաջ
Twitch Rivals did competitive minecraft bingo. it was great.
alex manley
alex manley 3 օր առաջ
60 out of 100
The Oshawott King
The Oshawott King 3 օր առաջ
I dont hate Dream and i do find some of his vids fun to watch, but i did knew that it wasnt a smart decision to fight against the Minecraft speedrun mod team. There have been alot of cheating investigations in the past with other games and the people who expose speedrunners for cheating take their job seriously, they are like detectives trying to figure out a murder investigation or a mystery. Doing things like using Audacity for checking things in the sounds of the recording, recreating speedruns with slow speed, checking every fricking pixel in the screen with Photoshop etc.
Peri Uluirmak
Peri Uluirmak 3 օր առաջ
8:37 i think the first one , the one with flipping a coin ten times and getting heads 7 times 9:00 yaaaay
Jordon Lott
Jordon Lott 3 օր առաջ
Why are there so many dislikes
Muhammad Soleh
Muhammad Soleh 2 օր առաջ
and probably because he has no conclusion
Commander_Chop_Stix YT
Commander_Chop_Stix YT 3 օր առաջ
Probably all the dream stans
itzmattaf777
itzmattaf777 3 օր առաջ
100
GTG Glenn
GTG Glenn 3 օր առաջ
0:12 wait mat are you there when mr beast is giving away like 25 ps5's
Epic Ocean
Epic Ocean 3 օր առաջ
I think dream doesn’t fake his speedruns i think dream is super lucky
Gameslug
Gameslug 7 ժամ առաջ
@StrikeYT I’m 90% sure there was another comment
StrikeYT
StrikeYT Օր առաջ
@Gameslug and when did I say dream didn't cheat?
StrikeYT
StrikeYT Օր առաջ
@Gameslug gosh I didn't expect a slug will be so mean
Muhammad Soleh
Muhammad Soleh 2 օր առաջ
he cheated. No more opinions, only facts
Gameslug
Gameslug 3 օր առաջ
Both of you idiots dream cheated. The data shows that he did.
Big Sheesh
Big Sheesh 3 օր առաջ
I love how people dislike the video without watching it 🤣
Shubham Saini
Shubham Saini 3 օր առաջ
Mr beast buy the store again
Ouf
Ouf 4 օր առաջ
Those of y'all in the comments making fun of the fact how MatPat asked the question, but didn't exactly answer it, please reread the title. "A Final Analysis." Definition of Analysis- (n.) detailed examination of the elements or structure of something. Meaning an explanation or investigation, but not exactly the final answer. So basically you set yourself up by clicking the damn video.
StrikeYT
StrikeYT 3 օր առաջ
Your really smart for a mouse
Mollie Star Forever
Mollie Star Forever 4 օր առաջ
16:50 EXOTIC BUTTERS
_K I L L E R • Q U E E N_
_K I L L E R • Q U E E N_ 3 օր առաջ
Eggsodic buhddersz
Yagsterr
Yagsterr 4 օր առաջ
He did. End of story.
Gameslug
Gameslug 3 օր առաջ
Exactly
Lewys Cousins
Lewys Cousins 4 օր առաջ
On any other channel I wouldn't point this out, but since its Game Theory and I know we like details around here, the exterior of that Tardis from 2:29 is from the 11/12th Doctor's tenure however the interior is from the 9/10th Doctor's run. Just saying!
s1lvDrag0n
s1lvDrag0n 4 օր առաջ
I couldn’t care less if he cheated or not, no matter how you look at it, Dream is still one the best Minecraft players to exist.
StrikeYT
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And just because He is good at PvP doesn't mean that his the best player in the world dream stan
Bottom Text
Bottom Text 2 օր առաջ
This is about integrity. Also dream is average, notice how he never fights any actual pvpers? I could fight a below average player and look like a PvP god too.
Gameslug
Gameslug 3 օր առաջ
He is not the best Minecraft player. He is good at 1.16 pvp but not the best. He also has average building and redstone skills. Also he is nowhere near the top of 1.8 pvp
Leonard
Leonard 3 օր առաջ
Yes, so good he has to cheat.
StrikeYT
StrikeYT 3 օր առաջ
Technoblade: are you sure about that?
Kason Lair
Kason Lair 4 օր առաջ
100 times and getting 60 heads
Kayla Powers
Kayla Powers 4 օր առաջ
I'm pretty sure the answer was 1) You CAN'T have an answer especially given the fact both sides can't have conclusive evidence to prove Dream did or didn't cheat and that the experiment itself wasn't infallible so what MatPat had to work with was skewed one way or another. 2) Generally? Why are we speedrunning Minecraft??? Especially now that nether fortresses have become rarer since the recent nether update and that your ability to be fastest are decided by some factors are now up to luck and not skill. That's what I got from the video anyway.
Bottom Text
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Imagine being so lucky you could have won the lottery multiple times a day for your entire life but you waste all that luck on Minecraft.
Conner McKinnon
Conner McKinnon 4 օր առաջ
As an Econometrics Major, I can confirm that this video is a great intro into how statistics can be applied to the real world, and I appreciate it being made
Conner McKinnon
Conner McKinnon 4 օր առաջ
Sampling Bias, Law of Large Iterations, getting closer to the mean as you increase sample size, these are all fundamental truths to statistics, and you must take these things into consideration or you could end up falsely accusing someone. These numbers show that Dream 99.9999999% cheated - there is no 100%.
Xavier Elwood
Xavier Elwood 4 օր առաջ
is everyone going to ignor mr beast in the intro
n reddick
n reddick 4 օր առաջ
i mad
StrikeYT
StrikeYT 3 օր առաջ
Why?
Akaash Raghunath
Akaash Raghunath 4 օր առաջ
11:27 What? W H A T ?
Scxrd Vize
Scxrd Vize 4 օր առաջ
3 year olds: oh i dont see a red one cause i already pressed it let me press it again Matpat: NOOOOOO
Beetless
Beetless 4 օր առաջ
17:51 why no target block :(
Cora at Home
Cora at Home 4 օր առաջ
spoiler: he... F*ck it. ya gotta watch the video.
Kyle K
Kyle K 4 օր առաջ
I think that the olympics are scripted as I can’t run as fast as them or jump as high as them
Bottom Text
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What are you trying to say?
Tommy Mc
Tommy Mc 4 օր առաջ
So was it fake or not
StrikeYT
StrikeYT Օր առաջ
@GameslugUmmm Fine Then dream cheated and he just don't want to admit it
Bottom Text
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@StrikeYT What do you mean you "like techo more"? You can obviously tell from that statement alone that you're a child. It's like thinking Xbox is better than PS4 or vice versa, they are 2 different things and only children compare them and fight over which is better.
Gameslug
Gameslug 3 օր առաջ
@StrikeYT you are 100% a dream stan, you are just too embarrassed to admit it. He did cheat.
StrikeYT
StrikeYT 3 օր առաջ
Dream didn't fake it I'm not a dream Stan like at all I personally like techno But Dream didn't fake the speedrun it's just the mods are just dumb
Wheatley
Wheatley 4 օր առաջ
Yes it was
jbone
jbone 4 օր առաջ
i learned more from this video than a whole year in ap stats
Sidney Wateski
Sidney Wateski 4 օր առաջ
16:40 no joke the day this video came out I had a guest lecturer come into my college class-- hes the guy who helped make this site....thats really coincidental
Huynh Hong Nhat
Huynh Hong Nhat 4 օր առաջ
The aback den spontaneously travel because tortellini sicily wonder minus a friendly dragon. furry furtive, available myanmar
StrikeYT
StrikeYT 3 օր առաջ
Nice Spelling bro
Dan David
Dan David 4 օր առաջ
this video is more like my maths class .
Sandeep Banik
Sandeep Banik 4 օր առաջ
I know MatPat uses a lot of mathematical methods to back up his theories, but what was the intro (0:00 - 0:52)? Yes, you use mathematical methods to prove your theories but why are you demeaning some other profession. It came out very salty on your part. If you're trying to show that you're smarter than a professor then you have to reconsider your position. Professors are smart and that's why they are at universities. Your videos are becoming more and more pompous. I guess that's the difference between your videos and someone like Veritasium. And for claiming so much about reading 20+ page paper you might want to get your notation and numbers right. The probability of 7 heads out of 10 coin flips = 11.72 % and not 17%. The probability of 60 heads out of 100 coin flips = 1.08 % and not 2.82%. Reference - Leon-Garcia, Alberto. "Probability, statistics, and random processes for electrical engineering." (2017). Chapter 2. You might want to run your other numbers again (for the rest of your video).
CROW TB
CROW TB 4 օր առաջ
if you see mrbeast in the video its so werid please if you want to find him you will see him in the start with all stuff
Bottom Text
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He's a big AM-postsr of course he's used as a prop. It's not like Mr.Beast is some tiny AM-postsr with a few hundred subscribers
Zaara Ev
Zaara Ev 4 օր առաջ
So imitating politicians As one Argentine president once said , "I give a NO positive"
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