The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05

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There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.
Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.
But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.
The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?
Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.
For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.
With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.
Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.
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Clayton Bridges
Clayton Bridges 30 րոպե առաջ
*cough* LS400 *cough*
Ozi Yılmaz
Ozi Yılmaz 5 ժամ առաջ
Well you say "500E over cornered M cars" dear Jason, I watched Keiichi Tsuchiya (a.k.a DK) killed 500E with a 3.8 E34 M5 on the track. I agree W124 is a legendary car which 500E is even more legendary but E34 M5 is a better "sports car".
Simon Ardfors
Simon Ardfors 5 ժամ առաջ
That grain filter on all the old footage looks really bad
J Mills
J Mills 7 ժամ առաջ
Jason, this is content you were born to create. Poor man’s Ryan Reynolds anyone? + as an enthusiast who came of age in the 90’s this car remains a pinnacle and I will boot myself for not buying one for 20k with 40000 miles
ghetto journalist tv
ghetto journalist tv 7 ժամ առաջ
lovely driving this masterpiece
Edward Kokol
Edward Kokol 7 ժամ առաջ
I worked at a Mercedes Benz dealership for over 19 years (starting in 1988). The500E was an awesome car and fun to drive. The video says no Porsche parts, but I remember standing at the parts counter as they ordered transmission parts from Porsche for a 500E. My friend who still works there had one. He always floored it when we went to lunch. Good times.
alan Qtrmaine
alan Qtrmaine 10 ժամ առաջ
Gave the thumbs up just for the title
xnreyescj
xnreyescj 16 ժամ առաջ
Thank you Mercedes-Benz for lobbying ($$$) U.S. congress in '88 and passing the Vehicle Safety Compliance Act.
Ghoosh Wen
Ghoosh Wen 17 ժամ առաջ
I love boxy car design
Andy Hills
Andy Hills 18 ժամ առաջ
Two words Vauxhalls lotus carlton.
Terence Cheng
Terence Cheng 19 ժամ առաջ
Perfect in the making, also for your mechanic
Cesar Abraham
Cesar Abraham 21 ժամ առաջ
My Dad had the 300E 1986, He bought it brand new , This car is indeed the perfect 4 door sedan, built like a tank, straight 6 engine, german engineering at it's finest, very comfortable ride, My dad donated the car in 2015 with 267K miles . Lots of memories
dbernstein85
dbernstein85 21 ժամ առաջ
Haha silly video everyone knows the e38 was the greatest sedan
Tony Curtis Blondell
Tony Curtis Blondell 21 ժամ առաջ
Best car video, lol
Simon F
Simon F 21 ժամ առաջ
Cute dressing gown.
Mohammad Al Fattal
Mohammad Al Fattal 22 ժամ առաջ
Mercedes was the best by miles and miles ahead of anyone Now you can argue about it being still the best, but barely
Gene Smith
Gene Smith 22 ժամ առաջ
GO to the source- Buy a PORSCHE.
Siddhesh Mhatre
Siddhesh Mhatre 23 ժամ առաջ
Great film. 400E and 500E are still gorgeous even today.
NUMENORLU DEMİRCİ
NUMENORLU DEMİRCİ 23 ժամ առաջ
Very good video
no taboos
no taboos 23 ժամ առաջ
No airbags. Instantly obsolete.
LoneWolfSigma
LoneWolfSigma 23 ժամ առաջ
Mercedes today..Bring your wallet for repairs. Lexus reliability is far superior than Mercedes. If you love having your wallet raped. to FIT IN with the 1%....buy Mercedes and BMWs....and that is just for them to scan your vehicle with their special scan tools.
Pistonburner
Pistonburner Օր առաջ
Perfect? That old automatic transmission alone makes it totally impossible.
Sgt. Tom
Sgt. Tom Օր առաջ
It came up on the right side as proposition. Man ow man, it was so good that i just clicked full screen mode, sat back and watched to the last second. It reminded me of good old times of holy trinity, the top gear. Hats off.
marshalllucky
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what if you got a popped tire? what then?
AeRoTR
AeRoTR Օր առաջ
I could not stop watching, very good job !
josava1
josava1 Օր առաջ
It’s Right up there with the GOAT - Lexus Ls400
Tim Tv Please
Tim Tv Please Օր առաջ
Very enjoyable video. Glad it came out of no where to Me. Feeling confident sitting in my Sprinter!
Parvez A K Khan
Parvez A K Khan Օր առաջ
My all time favourite W123 and W124
bozukbeyin
bozukbeyin Օր առաջ
This is great content man! Thank you.
Michael Davidson
Michael Davidson Օր առաջ
Can the mexican presenting the video wear normal clothes and quit the classical music
Math is not for the faint of heart
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And then Lexus came with the LS400. Boy, were they upset at MB, Audi and BMW. But I do admit that the Kathedral (W140) demands respect
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He looks like Jimmy kimmel
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C S Օր առաջ
Was...
Patriotic Indus
Patriotic Indus Օր առաջ
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Mark Lydon
Mark Lydon Օր առաջ
An Italian obsessed with safety????? That must have been a one off.
sexphisto
sexphisto Օր առաջ
nope.
gRosh08
gRosh08 Օր առաջ
Well Done Hagerty!
Khanya Luthando Ngobo
Khanya Luthando Ngobo Օր առաջ
I don't dispute its a great car, but really Mercedes fan boys.. You have to give credit where it's due, Porsche designed and engineered the engine and portions of the body, only Porsche and Audi has the most Le Mans wins, this engine won the PE Mans because it's a Porsche engineered engine not Mercedes. Between Merc, Audi and BMW.. Audi will forever have the better engines. Though this is an impeccable car but give credit where it's due honesty won't kill
Al Ks Mercedes
Al Ks Mercedes Օր առաջ
You don’t know it in till you try it
Norse Viking Æsir
Norse Viking Æsir 2 օր առաջ
Too bad the driving footage was shite, rigid mount the camera next time so people can appreciate body roll, etc..
nestoavila
nestoavila 2 օր առաջ
Lol Derek Tamhyphen Scott lol
Norse Viking Æsir
Norse Viking Æsir 2 օր առաջ
I want to see it in an actual wind tunnel and come up with that coefficient of drag.
mercedesbenzformula1
mercedesbenzformula1 2 օր առաջ
One of my favorite cars ever!
Hemo A.H.
Hemo A.H. 2 օր առաջ
drove the w124 300e for college. Brilliant and still holds up but be prepared for insane bills.
Geri
Geri 2 օր առաջ
I have a w124 250D and all i can say is the more i try other new cars the more im convinced of what masterpiece they have built.
Wefixanything
Wefixanything 2 օր առաջ
Next one is BMW e60..
Q
Q 2 օր առաջ
I had one. Yes the best ever built.
Peter Forte
Peter Forte 2 օր առաջ
I want!!!
Shrek Wazowski
Shrek Wazowski 2 օր առաջ
"Porsha"
zoomer46 zoomer46
zoomer46 zoomer46 2 օր առաջ
to be honest when i drove an 500e w124 i thought it felt a bit slow, later on i got a s210 e55 which felt way faster, 500e an over hyped saloon in my opinion.
JD Mosley
JD Mosley 2 օր առաջ
You spelled "WRX STi" wrong.
Nick Adams
Nick Adams 2 օր առաջ
The host is such annoying a hole
joesaric1
joesaric1 2 օր առաջ
But whyyyyyyyy again ??
Surfman
Surfman 2 օր առաջ
Ls400 is better tho.
PGC
PGC 2 օր առաջ
I own a showroom 1990 300ce24V: a 3.0 litre six straight engine providing some lovely and smooth 232 HP with catalytic converter: it was around the time when in the US most of the V8 5 litres were giving some 140 HP at their best. Is that correct? All the stuff, accessories and amenities you are enthusiast about in this car, were standard in mine too. No miracle just for your 500E but "standard fitting" for any top of class models of the period.
Antonio Bonvecchio
Antonio Bonvecchio 2 օր առաջ
datti na calmata che è una merda di auto come le altre
Live Life
Live Life 2 օր առաջ
It is a MercySadie. Mercy Sadie, the darn thing wont start again. I can still hear father to this day.
Ben Bond
Ben Bond 2 օր առաջ
And then, as has probably already been mentioned, there was the beastly W124 V12.
Matt Hunter
Matt Hunter 2 օր առաջ
2003 E46 328i ZLP sport package is best sedan ever
CCOCCARO
CCOCCARO 2 օր առաջ
Jason...why no love for the W124 M119 4.2L? Those cars didn't have the short gearing so they were capable of being faster, if not quicker. While I don't dare drive my 27 year old '94 E420 like you did the 500, it still delivers the goods. Two wishes: Mercedes-Benz would offer more support for the OBD I cars and a glove box. MBNA spun the barrel reducing the W124 price by $10K in 1993 to chase Lexus wisely. I doubt the accountants would let that kind of currency hedge happen today.
Emerson Galvao
Emerson Galvao 2 օր առաջ
My grandfather bought this car in Toronto Ontario sent it across the sea and now sits in his house in Portugal. It's a s*** engine it can barely make up a hill he has a diesel
Beinjar
Beinjar 2 օր առաջ
Hehe finally found him 😀😊😊 J C. Subscribed!!!!
Ty Kit
Ty Kit 2 օր առաջ
Is this the car for the nurburgring lap in granturismo 4?
4390100
4390100 2 օր առաջ
We had a Diesel version and it lasted until 500,000 kilos with no big maintenance bills, never had one here that lasted that long, even the Toyota's here don't get over 350,000 and that last one is usually the longer lasting one.
William Adams
William Adams 2 օր առաջ
Property does not have rights. People have rights. The right to enjoy property without unlawful deprivation.
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ben kelley 8 ժամ առաջ
Mrs bella stole my dog and punched my mom. These scam comment threads are hilarious.
Donald Rounds
Donald Rounds 2 օր առաջ
Bitcoin is obviously the new digital gold.
James Cardio
James Cardio 2 օր առաջ
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Steuern MitKopf
Steuern MitKopf 2 օր առաջ
@Goerge Jones This isn't ignorance but because of unprofessional brokers in the stock market.
goarif1
goarif1 2 օր առաջ
Can compete even todays car
Jd White
Jd White 2 օր առաջ
❤️ my e-63 I've soul crushed so many two door zipperheads....all while the ac is cranking and my seat message going.😃
1a
1a 2 օր առաջ
i want this beauty.
azharudheen S
azharudheen S 2 օր առաջ
Powerful presentation..
The-bro-jason
The-bro-jason 2 օր առաջ
Those rear head rests are so annoying when they retract
quantumphaser
quantumphaser 2 օր առաջ
I had the same engine in my 1990 500SL. Incredible engine.
Rok Baro
Rok Baro 2 օր առաջ
For Albanians MB will always be the king of the road 👌
BonuxCouleur
BonuxCouleur 2 օր առաջ
I almost bought the 560SEC Series 10 years ago but could not afford the insurance (and I suspect the fuel consumption) but what a car it was especially in this coupe version. With the massive black star logo it looked like a beast, sounded like a beast... Bloody insurance scums.
Your Average Passer-By
Your Average Passer-By 2 օր առաջ
This was my grandfather's car. I have good memories of riding shotgun while he drove me around town.
Calisota WGPR
Calisota WGPR 2 օր առաջ
hmmm but what about the BMW 850 CSi?
crazycool1128
crazycool1128 2 օր առաջ
>chunk of plastic over the engine Into the trash it goes
Patrick Smith
Patrick Smith 2 օր առաջ
Dude so glad to see you back on the AM-posts
Quivver77
Quivver77 2 օր առաջ
@1:00 - "6.3 Litres of Shut up Hippee!" - This guy has a way with words!
032HULK
032HULK 2 օր առաջ
Cuz of 500E we love Taxi 1.
DDOT EEL
DDOT EEL 2 օր առաջ
Lexus LS400 > Mercedes 500E
Scotty MSU
Scotty MSU 2 օր առաջ
Nah, my 1988 Honda Accord LXi with pop up head light was my perfect Sedan!
Steel prime King of Dabbleyoo
Steel prime King of Dabbleyoo 2 օր առաջ
Engines, to be fully efficient, should be silent, cold and still in the frame (no vibrations).
Rod Dooley
Rod Dooley 2 օր առաջ
I have 190E collection,all I could afford but have 2 Cosworths,and 3 Sportlines and an LE .Friend had 500E car ,it was too MUCH !!!
Aditya CEO
Aditya CEO 2 օր առաջ
Finest looking car with no cheap electronics!
Infinit01
Infinit01 2 օր առաջ
Still a beautiful MB in 2021
James Copsey
James Copsey 2 օր առաջ
Thanks for the ride.
Original J
Original J 3 օր առաջ
Thanks for helping make my favorite car series, the Lexus LS.
kmcbatch2017 kmc
kmcbatch2017 kmc 3 օր առաջ
nice
Roar Christoffersen
Roar Christoffersen 3 օր առաջ
A Mercedes that looks like a Mercedes form all angles!! Great. Today , you can't tell some Mercedes from a Mazda or Toyota. Today, most car designers are nothing but clones of each other.
Joe M
Joe M 3 օր առաջ
Ls400 is a better machine. Change my mind
Tomas Tylecek
Tomas Tylecek 3 օր առաջ
i owned 93 300E, loved the car
Mr Autospec
Mr Autospec 3 օր առաջ
W126 500 is better!
JVA
JVA 3 օր առաջ
A lot of these w124 went well over 1M km as taxi cars here in europe
machedar
machedar 3 օր առաջ
Also let’s you know how good the Lexus LS400 was !
Kanyanga
Kanyanga 3 օր առաջ
This popped up on my feed. I've just began falling in love with Mercedes Benz S Class Sedans. Lemmie review this ♥️💯👌
GRM
GRM 3 օր առաջ
I don't believe a word this guy said compared to BMW at the time, you either own one or listen to this clown, whose obnoxious character sucks anyways.
Globy Boulga
Globy Boulga 3 օր առաջ
Cooperation. Instead of corporation.
sanjay dhokia
sanjay dhokia 3 օր առաջ
very lively and interesting review, great sense of humor
New Here
New Here 3 օր առաջ
I hate ww2 car Manufaktur mraclades prisoner handmade
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