This is Why You Suck at Guitar: How to change tuning and string gauges floyd rose tremolo

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Ben Eller

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Table of contents:
Tools you'll need: 2:20
Understanding your Floyd Rose tremolo: 3:15
Understanding tremolo angle: 7:40
Tuning your guitar DOWN or going to a lighter gauge of strings: 10:25
-front blocking a tremolo: 10:58
-changing the tuning down: 13:28
-the crazy weird secret trick to rule all other tremolo tuning tricks!!!!: 16:09
How to tune UP, or go to a heavier gauge of strings: 19:40
-back blocking a tremolo: 21:00
-tuning UP: 23:00
-the best tremolo trick you'll ever use for setting your guitar up: 24:00
Afterthoughts and the effects of changing tunings and string gauges on your floating trem guitar: 26:35
-intonation : 26:49
-truss rod: 27:09
-adding an additional spring: 28:14
Suckamaniacs!!!! Uncle Ben Eller here is back with a brand new installment of This Is Why You Suck at Guitar! I get dozens of emails and telepathic dream messages every week from fans all over the world who are in a world of pain from trying to change tunings and string gauges on their Floyd Rose /Ibanez Edge / Lo Pro Edge tremolos... and i can't blame them! I remember the first floating bridge guitar i ever messed with, it was my brother's Ibanez EX Series... i was trying to tune down a half step to play along to the Metallica Load and Reload records (.... yeah.), and i just couldn't figure it out! By the time i got the low strings tuned down, the high strings were WAY sharp, then when i tuned them down, the low strings had jumped up to standard pitch again... what a nightmare. I actually sold my soul to the devil in order to finally get the tuning changed over... boy do i ever regret that move now! It was years later that i stumbled across this awesome trick for changing the tuning on a Floyd-Equipped guitar. I'm going to save you a LOT of time and frustration, not even to mention your immortal soul. You just may need that later.
You just need a couple simple tools and some knowledge of the crazy seesaw-like effect that your strings and springs have. You'll learn about blocking your bridge (from both sides!), adjusting the claw screw tension, the famous Whoopi Goldberg, and the aftereffects of messing with your tuning and string gauge. Its all super fast and easy once you learn the basic principles of how to do this. Its all reversible, it doesn't harm anything, and if you follow my steps, you'll have great success. Huzzah!!!!
The guitar i'm working on is my 1987 Ibanez RG550 Fallout finish, with custom pick guard and pickups by Instrumental Pickups (Decomp HS set).
Thanks so much for watching, let me know how it goes for you!!! Cheers!

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mrdrastic
mrdrastic 4 տարի առաջ
I have heard so many horrible stories about tuning a guitar with a floyd rose style floating bridge. The guy at the guitar store even said how difficult it was going to be and that I should buy an easier guitar. With your video, you have made it so easy to tune and fine tune my guitar that I am back in love with playing it everyday now! I go from standard to Drop C tuning without worry! The coin method is so easy to do! Now, the tuning is perfect again, no matter what tuning I choose! You sir, have given my Ibanez Floyd Rose guitar a reason to live again! Brilliant video. Easy to follow, easy to understand, and makes tuning my floyd rose a joy instead of a nerve racking chore that no one wants to undertake! My guitar thanks you!
Jason Maarsseveen
Jason Maarsseveen 9 օր առաջ
Yeah ditto man, I even like to do it now 😅
justswell
justswell 29 օր առաջ
@Makai Konnor thats a weird thing to do buddy
Joel Vihaan
Joel Vihaan Ամիս առաջ
@Makai Konnor Trying it out right now. Seems promising.
Makai Konnor
Makai Konnor Ամիս առաջ
Dunno if anyone cares but last night I hacked my girlfriends Instagram account using Instapwn. Find it on google if you care
David Bartles
David Bartles 10 ամիս առաջ
guy at the store was an asshole, its only hard at first. getting used to it is what makes it easy and being familiar with your instrument is very beneficial.
Justins Music and fitness
Justins Music and fitness 2 ժամ առաջ
Awesome video ... but the more easy method.... get my telecaster out and jam out in about 20 sec of tuning 😆
Isismusicnow
Isismusicnow Օր առաջ
I learned that trick a couple of years ago and it was a relief after all those years spending hours and hours trying to get it in tune
Ironikal Juize
Ironikal Juize Օր առաջ
9:22 am i hearing Smash music
Checko G TV
Checko G TV Օր առաջ
That background song reminds me of Final Fantasy 7
starwolffan13
starwolffan13 2 օր առաջ
MAH GETURS GOT A TREMBULUR ON IT
Wyatt Scott
Wyatt Scott 6 օր առաջ
I just need to buy another Charvel, one in Eb and one in standard
dirtyoliver
dirtyoliver 11 օր առաջ
Thought this was Phil Aneslmo in the thumbnail for a second lmao
Fire Cast
Fire Cast 11 օր առաջ
Dude used "under the rotting pizza" as an instrimental. FF7 rocks and so do you.
Swamp Dog
Swamp Dog 14 օր առաջ
Sister act 1 and 2 classic 🤣😆😂🤘🏻✌🏻
Akash R
Akash R 16 օր առաջ
Which is why I got the Antares ATG installed on my guitar which means now I have a guitar with a Floyd Rose bridge that can never ever go out of tune!!! Since the ATG is now discontinued by Antares, the best option would be using a pitch shift pedal like the Digitech Drop which I used for years for that purpose!!! 🤔
Ashvin Joseph 458 [D]
Ashvin Joseph 458 [D] 17 օր առաջ
Now i can love my floyd rose back again 😭❤️ thanks uncle Ben 😭❤️
sgarcia
sgarcia 18 օր առաջ
or simply if you wanna keep your mental health just dont use floyd rose
Tom Glander
Tom Glander 19 օր առաջ
One guitar for every different possible tuning config. And a guitar for every string weight. Problem solved. Seriously, this is great material. Thanks!
Jeremy Bransford
Jeremy Bransford 20 օր առաջ
Anyone know how to keep the whammy bar from swinging loosely? Hard to do Tim Henson flutters when the bar always flops down to 6 o'clock position.
Hitheaglir Bm
Hitheaglir Bm 25 օր առաջ
How stupid, if i tune my claw screw on the high side the bottom strings change tune...
Hitheaglir Bm
Hitheaglir Bm 25 օր առաջ
@Ben Eller Yes, i did. I restrung my guitar more often, but the bottom strings react faster to the adjusting of the screw on the high ones. in contrast, the screw on the bottom string side has little effect so the screws get unevenly adjusted... In the end i get both equal but it takes fine tuning. I play a Rich in C Standard and wanted to down tune half a step.... But it worked. Thanks
Ben Eller
Ben Eller 25 օր առաջ
Did you watch the entire process and try it? It absolutely works, dude.
Toby Custard
Toby Custard 26 օր առաջ
Got a floyd for my first you can imagine how that went
Apostle7 77
Apostle7 77 28 օր առաջ
Jesus christ is coming repent choose him today, he loves you
justswell
justswell 29 օր առաջ
so basically you put a block in that little cavity, unlock those nut things, tune it in playing position, lock the nuts, and take the block out? then turn that little screw thing to finish it off?
APOLLO
APOLLO Ամիս առաջ
Thanks man Now I can finally play in drop c
Shawn
Shawn Ամիս առաջ
8:35 nigga stole my bike
Jay Malachapa
Jay Malachapa Ամիս առաջ
Final Fantasy? I thought bit was Mike Tyson's Punchout music 🎵
Nutwax Balls
Nutwax Balls Ամիս առաջ
Just spent a long time trying to fix my bridge, this video helped a lot thanks, all the other videos online were no where near as helpful.
JBEE 85
JBEE 85 Ամիս առաջ
Ben I’m in a 80’s hair cover band. We play d standard with Floyd’s. Currently using 10-52 would you go any lighter in gauge? Thanks
Ben Eller
Ben Eller Ամիս առաջ
On a 25.5 scale guitar, I like 10-52!!!
Red Wolf-Gaming
Red Wolf-Gaming Ամիս առաջ
thank you uncle Ben, you were able to make my 7 string Ibanez in perfect drop a from drop g and I love it, thank you so muchh
Alias
Alias Ամիս առաջ
THANKS SO MUCH after 2 hours an 5 different tutorials yours did the job and I can finally start playing.
salad ass7
salad ass7 Ամիս առաջ
Does it work with six screw trems
Matthew Mason
Matthew Mason Ամիս առաջ
This video was extremely helpful. You saved me so much time by helping me choose not to buy a floyd rose guitar. Thanks!
Apostle7 77
Apostle7 77 Ամիս առաջ
Jesus christ is coming repent choose him today he loves you ..
Jerry Franklyn
Jerry Franklyn Ամիս առաջ
Freaking Awesome INFO from you. Thank you very much.
Kevin Williams
Kevin Williams Ամիս առաջ
Isnt this where ya grab another guitar tuned to drop A or D instead of redoing 1 guitar? Tune it at C. More fun. Lol
ShubGuitar
ShubGuitar Ամիս առաջ
Will this work for a guitar with a regular Strat style bridge?
Keep modern television Alive
Keep modern television Alive Ամիս առաջ
Dude that is straight up fucking final fantasy 7 music.
Harsh Truth
Harsh Truth Ամիս առաջ
Love the street fighter music in the background
Harsh Truth
Harsh Truth Ամիս առաջ
They actually sell blocks that fit perfectly now. No need to find or make anything.
Spencer William
Spencer William Ամիս առաջ
I didn't watch all the way and didn't realize I skipped a step lol I got scared and readjusted back to where I was 🤣🤣 silly impatient me.
gonepickin'
gonepickin' 2 ամիս առաջ
Hey Ben, just got a Schecter Apocalypse FRS. Never had a Floyd Rode before. Great, except Sweetwater set it up E instead of Eb as requested. $120 later, Salesman: "Just tune it down...". Me: "Riiight...AM-posts here I come". I found your vid and after 2 tries it worked perfectly. The first time I had the 3rd string at D# instead of C#. Dope! Had to start all over but the second time did the trick. The plate in the back isn't quite straight but it was pretty much in tune when I was done using the screws to tune it. The whole bracket back there was installed a little crooked. Tweaked the fine tuners and I'm off and running! Thanks! You have earned another subscriber!
thomas666
thomas666 2 ամիս առաջ
Thank you, I have been trying to explain this to my friend forever without physically showing him and this video explains how the balancing act works perfectly. Kudos, sir.
PFDarkside1
PFDarkside1 2 ամիս առաջ
4 years later the intro is still fantastic.
Wicked Lester
Wicked Lester 2 ամիս առաջ
My stepmom drinks Brass Monkey cuz she loves me ❤
MrShaun1578
MrShaun1578 2 ամիս առաջ
LMAO love the Kanye West metaphor I'm totally stealing that one
Jaime Christopher
Jaime Christopher 2 ամիս առաջ
I wish I have seen this before throwing away some guitars w/floyd as a beginner 😂
Benjamin Pierce
Benjamin Pierce 2 ամիս առաջ
Is that a chimaira hoodie!? Now I love uncle Ben even more..
JU5TNTIM3
JU5TNTIM3 2 ամիս առաջ
I only have Sister Act 1 on dvd... is there any acceptable substitute for Sister Act 2? 😂
JU5TNTIM3
JU5TNTIM3 2 ամիս առաջ
LOL
andzso
andzso 2 ամիս առաջ
Hi Ben! My ESP-s cavity claw is always diagonal when got in tune. Cant seem to make parallel, or is there any way? Why is it imoprtant anyway? Thanks
Quebec Nihilism Front
Quebec Nihilism Front 2 ամիս առաջ
while i'll never agree with u oin the mids issue, i'd like to thank you for this extensive, comprehensive, fantastic guide!
Tarsh46
Tarsh46 2 ամիս առաջ
Thanks so much for making this video. The manual that came with with my Ibanez RG350dx guitar is not very helpful. Watched 5 videos before this and was getting very frustrated. Took the coins and taped/blocked off the tremolo block and set. Worked like a charm was super surprised. My rg350dx had an adjustment nut to evenly adjust both springs on the claw hook. Was very easy to tune that way. Take care mate!
Randy Gast
Randy Gast 2 ամիս առաջ
That worked waaaaaay better than what I was doing. Aha
Kathy Koski
Kathy Koski 2 ամիս առաջ
Great info Uncle Ben! No bullshit! I am getting a Jackson with tremolo bridge so this is very valuable info indeed!
Armando Sanchez
Armando Sanchez 2 ամիս առաջ
Fantastic video. Thank you sir!
Julian Reyes
Julian Reyes 2 ամիս առաջ
I stack the plastic cards from my wallet, seems to do the trick as well 🤙🏼
s l a s h
s l a s h 2 ամիս առաջ
"get a hold of that kickstand and shake it like a polaroid picture" 10/10
I shred Guitar
I shred Guitar 2 ամիս առաջ
I don't suck anymore at guitar because I've been watching Ben Eller!
Curtis Hendricks
Curtis Hendricks 2 ամիս առաջ
I wish I watched this first. I got the job done through trial and error. Definitely doing this my next adjustment/tuning change/string change....
Cris Torres
Cris Torres 2 ամիս առաջ
Can you install a d tuna on an Ibanez Floyd rose bridge?
Thomas C
Thomas C 3 ամիս առաջ
999 IQ
Naegleria Fowleri
Naegleria Fowleri 3 ամիս առաջ
what if all i want is to change the same strings gauge, what do the fuck do i block, the big hole or small hole or both, i read is not good to block it when the knife edges are level as this could blow the bridge posts
panacea151
panacea151 3 ամիս առաջ
@Naegleria Fowleri Rich has his own way of doing it, that doesn't make it wrong. But you watched the video above, right? Ever a chance for the trem to spring backwards and pop off the posts? Nope. Use Rich's method, use Ben's method, or any of the other countless ways out there. The method doesn't matter, just the results. Have fun!
Naegleria Fowleri
Naegleria Fowleri 3 ամիս առաջ
@panacea151 right but I read from some guy Ibanezrules that on the edge trem, you must not block it level otherwise the bridge can pop off as this bridge is different from other Floyds, so if you put coins or a shim that fits in perfectly in that small cavity, this will block the trem level, no? so when you remove the strings, wouldn't this possibly make the bridge pop off? I read you want to block the bridge forward, so you block the bridge forward than level. I'm so confused about all of this
panacea151
panacea151 3 ամիս առաջ
@Naegleria Fowleri when you pull the strings off, the bridge is going to pull back. Blocking the small cavity will prevent this, keeping it level for the string change. This makes accessing the string block screws easier and keeps the trem from popping off the posts. You can use anything that fits, it doesn't need to be anything special. I just use some wood shims taped together. As far as using a device to hold the tremolo level from the top, or specialized tools, you can do that, too. There are several ways to do it. Find the way that works best for you and use it.
Naegleria Fowleri
Naegleria Fowleri 3 ամիս առաջ
@panacea151 whats the difference between blocking the small cavity and the big cavity? what about the tremblock device? wouldnt this achieve the same thing? basically raising the bridge or maybe even putting a microfiber towel under the bridge to raise it
panacea151
panacea151 3 ամիս առաջ
Block the small cavity, so that the bridge doesn't pop off the trem posts with the strings removed. If the same brand and gauge strings are used, it should tune back up with minimal adjustment.
Николай Матвеев
Николай Матвеев 3 ամիս առաջ
Thank you for this video. I just bought a Floyd Rose guitar and thought that I'm gonna have a headache with the tuning, but you showed an easy way of what to do. Very helpful and informative, thank you.
Michael Jett
Michael Jett 3 ամիս առաջ
I hear that final fantasy 7 music nice
Freddy Live
Freddy Live 3 ամիս առաջ
this was definitely helpful Ben .. Thank You.
Eric Escobar
Eric Escobar 3 ամիս առաջ
Lmfao that was so me at the beginning!!
drzitbag06
drzitbag06 3 ամիս առաջ
strings are so close to the pick up, my mind is bleedin. no. noooo. nooo.
Godmachine 999
Godmachine 999 3 ամիս առաջ
This is a great method!
Hans-Joachim Bierwirth
Hans-Joachim Bierwirth 3 ամիս առաջ
Be creative, tune drop d with b on a string ;)
Bereave Metal
Bereave Metal 3 ամիս առաջ
Trying to set my floyd up for drop c, how many springs should i use
Aidan
Aidan 3 ամիս առաջ
Another method is to block the tremolo block at the back tune it up perfectly, and then tighten the claw a little bit each time until the block falls out. Instead of taking the block or Allen key out and then trying to alter the claw with a tuner up and down. Should be pretty close.
DOOMZY
DOOMZY 3 ամիս առաջ
Came here just to give a thumbs down🤣
dpajc056
dpajc056 3 ամիս առաջ
Meh. Still too much effort for something I can live without. I mean FR are cool, but i almost never need a tremolo in my playing. I think in that case it’s better to just get a fixed bridge guitar and save yourself this stress
AxelMedia
AxelMedia 3 ամիս առաջ
All I can say is thank you!
dyglesias
dyglesias 3 ամիս առաջ
What is the name of those straps? Thx!
Max K
Max K 3 ամիս առաջ
Thanks
Jason Cunningham
Jason Cunningham 3 ամիս առաջ
What if I’m going to a bigger gauge and drop tuning??
Larry Ervin
Larry Ervin 3 ամիս առաջ
Excellent Video very easy to understanding. Thanks for helping me learn something today.
El Desgraciado
El Desgraciado 4 ամիս առաջ
Better pay a professional. I'm handy but I wouldn't rebuild my car's transmission at home either.
mondone1906
mondone1906 4 ամիս առաջ
Super easy while being a game changer. Thank you uncle Ben, you are the Man!
Domenic Vermillion
Domenic Vermillion 4 ամիս առաջ
Final Fantasy VII music in the background?
Evan P
Evan P 4 ամիս առաջ
Thanks so much for this video, just bought a guitar with a floyd rose today and I had no idea how to tune it, your video explained it perfectly and I successfully changed the tuning after watching your video!
Carl Ferritto
Carl Ferritto 4 ամիս առաջ
Does the process change if going from 9's to 10's and also going from standard tuning down a half step? Thanks!
3mountaingirl
3mountaingirl 4 ամիս առաջ
don't even own a FR-equipped-anything but watching the entire thing thru none the less....
Linden Arden
Linden Arden 4 ամիս առաջ
I was happy that this video seemed very helpful: I was trying to put lighter strings (from 0.10 to 0.09) and the low strings started buzzing a lot. Then I followed the instructions in this video, but when I had to tune using the screwdriver on the springs the problem I have is that the screws can't go any further apparently. I'm really hating this situation.
Hades
Hades 4 ամիս առաջ
Sir you are the best, no more words describe how helpful your video is!! the key tip: lock the nut and adjust tuning from the back NOT from machine heads or fine tuners.
ScrimZee
ScrimZee 4 ամիս առաջ
thank you so much best tutorial ever
Ray JackofTrades
Ray JackofTrades 4 ամիս առաջ
Popsicle sticksgood idea like that
Reza Rachmandito
Reza Rachmandito 4 ամիս առաջ
if switch from drop c to drop d and standard, i have to adjust the intonation using the screw each time i switch tuning? i use 10-52
Steven Nuhn
Steven Nuhn 4 ամիս առաջ
I wish I knew this years ago
NOVO Music
NOVO Music 4 ամիս առաջ
I just clicked because of the massive beauty of the guitar :0
w0rdsandstuff
w0rdsandstuff 4 ամիս առաջ
thank you so much for this video!
Ben Eller
Ben Eller 4 ամիս առաջ
You're so welcome!
Teutone
Teutone 4 ամիս առաջ
Omg you just saved my sanity. I was fucking losing my mind for 5 fours and this isn’t even my first floyd guitar.
chris johnston
chris johnston 4 ամիս առաջ
I love that Sister Act is playing in the background. I just got my first Floyd Rose guitar and it’s a nightmare, even the Guitar Center tech couldn’t get it in tune
Hosoi Archives
Hosoi Archives 4 ամիս առաջ
What kind of finish is that?
Sean Nel
Sean Nel 4 ամիս առաջ
You need a damn engineering degree to work a floyd rose pretty much.
Josh Greene
Josh Greene 4 ամիս առաջ
Thanks uncle Ben! I was doing it like a dingus on my ibanez s 7 smh
High Ping Gamer
High Ping Gamer 4 ամիս առաջ
I recently spent a while setting up my floating trem ibanez only to have one of the strings snap at the bridge saddle when i tried to be eddie van halen. I immediately blocked that trem like there was no tomorrow, loosened the snapped string from the tuning peg and locked it back in the bridge saddle. My s series and I get along much better now.
Bab Can
Bab Can 4 ամիս առաջ
Damn dude, this is so cool. Thank you so much for this.
Ben Funk
Ben Funk 5 ամիս առաջ
Underneath the Rotting Pizza ftw!
josh draken
josh draken 5 ամիս առաջ
This came up in my feed while I was having trouble tuning a floyd after replacing a broken string. First time attempt but Ben's walk-through had me dive bombing again in no time. Thanks, stepdad!
Nun Ya
Nun Ya 5 ամիս առաջ
This is blasphemy. Everyone knows the only proper solution for having different tunings is to buy more guitars.
Murphy08
Murphy08 Ամիս առաջ
It's all the justification that any player can use. And quite frankly it's hard to argue against it 100%
Eksynyt Molekyyli
Eksynyt Molekyyli Ամիս առաջ
@HHIDave I have only two guitars so far, a Floyd and a fixed bridge but out of laziness I drop the tuning on the fixed bridge with the pedal too. 🤣
Alune NutZ
Alune NutZ 2 ամիս առաջ
@HHIDave interesting, I'll try getting a marijuana pedal then!
G P
G P 2 ամիս առաջ
No doubt. Haha. Even if it's a cheap beater. New tuning = new guitar. hahaha
Alex Murphy
Alex Murphy 3 ամիս առաջ
This is me and then I realized that I rarely play in e flat or even drop D lmaoooo. I went full circle
Chrisyoubeauty
Chrisyoubeauty 5 ամիս առաջ
What an absolute faff
Ben Eller
Ben Eller 5 ամիս առաջ
@Chrisyoubeauty ooooooh ok hahahahaha never heard that one! Totally stealing that!
Chrisyoubeauty
Chrisyoubeauty 5 ամիս առաջ
Nooo! I’m not calling you a faff 😂. I’m British. A faff is a slang word for hard work/struggle/annoyance/tedious etc
Ben Eller
Ben Eller 5 ամիս առաջ
Ok, I warmly welcome this comment because it’s been a LONG time since I’ve been called a new insult. What does that one mean???
MoonshineSazerac
MoonshineSazerac 5 ամիս առաջ
Why has no one commented on the 'Under the Rotting Pizza' theme playing in the background in four years!?
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